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A Posthumous Oscar for Ledger? Kevin debates with Himself Portraying an Idiot on the Internet

Kevin Marshall’s Perspective
On a dorky note: whenever I read comics, the voice of The Joker in my head is, and always will be, Mark Hamill. In fairness, much of that is due to the strong visual connection between an animated series and the comics medium.

In terms of live-action, there’s never been a better comic book villain on film or television than Ledger’s Joker. I include Nicholson’s turn as The Joker in Tim Burton’s first “Batman” film in that previous statement, because let’s face it, Nicholson’s Joker was good, but much of it was just Jack being Jack.

Really, even asking if Ledger deserves a nomination at this point is moot, since most of the Academy-Award nominating performances for actors and actresses come out later in the year (so as to be fresh in the minds of the Academy). Since we realistically haven’t even seen the field, it’s impossible to say if Ledger deserves a posthumous Oscar for his performance. But for the sake of keeping my boredom at bay, let’s ignore that trivial fact for a moment.

I think that part of the reason why people scoff so much at Ledger getting a nomination is that they operate under the misapprehension that the award being discussed is for Best Actor. However, due to his role and the way the film’s structured, he’d actually be nominated for Best Supporting Actor. This makes a huge difference, as “Best Supporting Actor” is far more apt to go to a “less dramatic” performance and/or one that’s found in bigger budget fanfare. If anybody was going to win an Oscar for their work in a Summer blockbuster, it’d be in that category (but certainly not in Best Supporting Actress – I guess we can leave the conversation as to why that’s the case for another time).

What we can do is compare Ledger’s performance in “The Dark Knight” to recent winners and nominees in the same category. Was Ledger’s performance better than Javier Bardem’s sadistic turn in “No Country for Old Men”? How about Alan Arkin as the grandfather in “Little Miss Sunshine”? Or Casey Affleck in “The Assasination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford”?

Comparatively speaking, Ledger as The Joker can sit comfortably with those performances.
So, yes, he can conceivably be nominated for that Oscar and it’d be justifiable. Again though, whether or not he’d deserve it would be up to the field, and we won’t start seeing that until the Fall.

Marshall as the Annoying Idiot on the Internet’s Perspective
WHY SO SERIOUSSSS???????? i say it all the time noww and that is why ledger deserves it.

will he get the oscar well YEAAAHHHH i mean c’mon theres never been a beter performance put on teh screen quite like heath ledger or as i call him h-ledge when he played the joker. im sick of ppl doubting him and his abilities he was a great actor if u even saw that movie with julia styles u would know what i mean. h-ledge deserves this occar b/c unlike every other boring snoozefest taht gets nominated this film actually enteraind me!!!

and i thought my jokes were bad! another great line that deserves quoting b/c it carried so much wait in the film. but dont worry I DONT WANT TO KILL YOU! the list goes on. one more hello commissioner. if anything i think hell win b/c it wuz such a tragdy when ashley olsen made him od on all those pills and his makeup was fantastic. its a lock ther has not been a better perforance this yr. lets put a smile on that dearly departed face

So there you have it, folks. What do YOU think?

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  1. August 12, 2008 at 10:26 pm

    Nice Harley reference. She’s got such a following…I wonder if they’ll break canon for her?

    Also, the oscars award for an actors body of work. Marissa Tomei notwithstanding. You get a nomination for a great performance – you get an oscar for being a great performer. There will be a nomination – no doubt. But if he WINS the oscar, it will be retoactive for the oscar people thought he should have won for Brokeback Mtn. At the risk of sounding callous, if he had still been alive – depending on who he was up against – I’d doubt if he’d win. Partly because of his age, and partly because of the prejudice against the genre. Just because you win over the critics, doesn’t mean you win over the academy. And the academy is the utter height of pomposity.

    • August 13, 2008 at 1:59 am

      You’re definitely right on all counts.

      Quick note: that’s not my reference. It was the actual LJ username of the person who posted the question to the “Writer’s Block” thing on LJ.

      • August 13, 2008 at 2:43 am

        Yeah, I clicked and saw that. ::shudder::

        It IS a great icon, isn’t it??

    • August 13, 2008 at 1:59 am

      And God, I love that icon.

  2. August 12, 2008 at 10:28 pm

    Ledger is going to have serious competition with Guy Pierce in the adaptation of The Road.

    That movie is giving me goosebumps; the book was so terribly good.

    • August 13, 2008 at 1:59 am

      Did read the book or see the movie. Netflix Queue, population: The Road.

      • August 13, 2008 at 5:01 am

        I read the book, but I hear the movie comes out this Christmas. And Vigo and Guy are fabulous. And well, I think the movie might be this year’s No Cuntry.

  3. August 13, 2008 at 12:56 am

    I hope you don’t mind, but I did a dramatic performance of “Marshall as the Annoying Idiot.” Please tell me you posted it.

    • August 13, 2008 at 2:01 am

      Posted your performance or “The Idiot”?

      I mean, yes, the Idiot is me. Um…wait. Yes? Idunno.

      I’M CONFUSED

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