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3/11/08-Living Under Marshall Law Preview; Stupidity & Ignorance in Reactions to the Spitzer Scandal

Firstly, bpd and I recorded the first 26 minutes of this week’s “Living Under Marshall Law” podcast last night, which I subsequently edited and finished post-production on. When I said last week that it was our best podcast yet, I meant it. That being said, it won’t even TOUCH this week’s episode. The theme, by the way, is “Living Under Marshall Law” celebrating it’s 26th Anniversary. dreg4life listened to snippets of the first 26 minutes and was in tears laughing. ‘Nuff said.

But enough about that. Let’s talk about Spitzer.

Firstly, to the people that were asking if Spitzer was going to resign as Governor, the answer appears to be yes. According to several news agencies, he’s currently holding Transitional meetings and an announcement is expected (though it’s not known yet when).

Actually, can I amend that? Because the question of whether or not he was going to resign was sort of idiotic. I realize that people think of Spitzer and think of a total hothead who makes irrational decisions, but this wasn’t one of them. He was done the moment this news broke, and anybody who even thought he’d try to tough it out as Governor need to be institutionalized immediately.

That being said, I’ve been overhearing and reading a lot of stupid things regarding this whole mess. We’ll discuss more of this in the podcast this week, but I just wanted to touch on it now while it was still fresh in my mind. I’m angry and frustrated with Spitzer’s unbelievable stupidity, even if it was a foregone conclusion that something he’d done was going to catch up to him anyway. However, what’s perhaps more frustrating is the stupidity I see coming from so many other people in regards to this.

QUOTES CONCERNING SPITZER FROM PEOPLE WHO NEED TO STFU
“Wow, man, this is Watergate!” Overheard from someone in the same building I work in yesterday shortly after the news broke. Not even close. This was a guy that was already on his way down, it’s simply the manner in which he collapsed that was shocking. New Yorkers’ confidence in New York State government (what little there was to begin with) wasn’t shaken by this, nor was their opinion of Spitzer since his reputation had already been damaged beyond repair. Watergate did a lot of damage to national pride. This was just a guy who was self-destructing as Governor from Day One finally imploding in a fantastic manner.

“This is just another example of Bush using the Justice Department to gain political revenge.” Right, because Elliott Spitzer has been George W. Bush’s main adversary. Barring that ridiculousness, it was known very early on that this was part of a much larger investigation into the activities of the prostitution ring itself (“Emperor’s Club VIP”). Four men have already been charged. That and various other facts (read your local newspaper – sometimes words that aren’t in a blog can be very informative!) make it clear to anybody with half a brain that this isn’t an instance of somebody hearing about Spitzer’s activities and deciding to launch an investigation, rather of Spitzer walking into an illegal activity that was already being monitored by the US Attorneys office (which speaks more to the stupidity of Spitzer’s actions – more on that later this week). Again – it was an ONGOING FEDERAL INVESTIGATION THAT SPITZER WALKED INTO. If anybody thinks otherwise, there’s another group of irrational people that don’t read who have another conspiracy theory you might be interested in regarding the Twin Towers coming down. Also see: “I bet Joe Bruno has something to do with this.”

“HA, that’s New York for ya!” Oh, is it, dude from the Midwest or South? Right, like there haven’t been sex scandals involving politicians from YOUR area. Or religious leaders. Or anybody else caught with men after spending much of their careers advocating for policies that discriminate against homosexuals. Talk about hypocrisy and glass houses. This is not to say that Spitzer’s actions weren’t hypocritical in light of his previous actions and dealings as both Governor of New York State and the State Attorney General, but Christ, let’s show a little restraint here before we jump up on our pedestals. Speaking of which…

“That’s what you get for voting for Spitzer.” Yes, that’s what we get for electing a man to a higher position that had been considered one of the best AGs this State has ever seen, that cleaned up several areas of the State, and whom Time Magazine even recognized for his achievements. It’s one thing to throw this in the face of those who have been defending Spitzer over the past fourteen months (people whose existence may be an urban myth since nobody I know can seem to even verify their existence), but those who think that they could’ve seen any of this coming – and I’m going back to the harassing and threatening phone calls to Jim Tedisco and Joe Bruno – when Spitzer was being elected are fooling themselves. If you’re one of those that needs to think purely along Party Lines and then give yourself credit for all the wrong reasons when a member of the opposition party screws up on a grand scale, then more power to you. But even though people knew he was hard-headed when it came to certain things, nobody – not even Tedisco or Bruno – saw any of Spitzer’s early actions and attitudes as Governor coming, and they certainly didn’t see this coming in particular. They’ll be the first to tell you that.

Alright, I suppose I should get back to my workday so that I can get out of here at 5:30pm and see my Jenn (rated 8 Diamonds by Kevin Marshall!).

More later…

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  1. Anonymous
    March 11, 2008 at 7:17 pm

    What we knew about Spitzer

    I guess it depends on how closely you follow the State’s political news, as to whether you’d have seen the threatening phone calls coming. The allegations were certainly out there for more than a year before he ran for Gov, and I remember hearing less well-documented things like this in 2002 when he ran for re-election as AG.

    The difference, maybe, is that Jimmy T is a sympathetic figure and also media-savvy. People apparently can’t relate to the Wall Street fatcats — most of which were guilty of something anyways — that Spitzer spent most of his time bullying.

    Journalists in particular seemed to have not taken the Wall Street criticism very seriously, otherwise they would have asked more questions about Spitzer’s temperament and attitude. I got the sense that the 2006 election was more of a coronation.

    I don’t blame you for being suckered into it, but I do think you got suckered into it.

    The prostitution charge sure came out of nowhere, but in hindsight it’s absolutely consistent with his personality. Once the lovefest ended, it was more a matter of *how* he would manage to undo himself… or if he could actually keep it together. Well, he couldn’t, and man, he sure found an amazing way to be undone!

    –Ed.

    • March 12, 2008 at 2:25 am

      Re: What we knew about Spitzer

      There’s really nothing I can add to this. I just wanted to mention that I made the anonymous post. I hit send before I realized that I hadn’t entered my username/password.

  2. Anonymous
    March 12, 2008 at 2:21 am

    One of these days I’m going to get around to registering as an independent instead of a democrat, though I doubt I’ll unsubscribe from their mailing lists, just so I can see this sort of thing. From Democrats.com:

    Dear Governor Spitzer,

    Don’t let the Republicans and the rightwing media drive you out of office!

    You made a lot of powerful enemies in your career because you took on the most powerful crooks on Wall Street. Now your enemies are trying to get even by destroying your career and your life. Don’t let them!

    The whole investigation by the Bush Administration stinks to high heaven. This isn’t a case of “structuring” or “money laundering.” The FBI never investigates johns – so why are they investigating you?

    The answer is obvious. George Bush and Karl Rove turned the Justice Department into the political destruction arm of the Republican Party. They’ve prosecuted 5.6 Democrats for every Republican.

    That’s why former Alabama Governor Don Siegelman is rotting in jail, and that’s what they want to do to you.

    As Americans, we are outraged by Bush’s endless abuses of justice. If anyone should be removed from office, it’s George Bush!

    Governor Spitzer, please stand and fight against this outrageous and naked partisan Republican assault. We support you!

    • March 12, 2008 at 2:30 am

      Fucking A.

    • March 13, 2008 at 12:10 am

      That is absolutely hilarious – thanks for sharing that.

      I mean… damn.

  3. Anonymous
    April 5, 2008 at 9:27 pm

    thanks much

    thats for sure, dude

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